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 How to add Windows Application Window to SM?
 
 8/25/2008 11:39:52 AM
blz
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How to add Windows Application Window to SM?
Hello, first let me say that I am very impressed by the SM software! Congratulations!

I plan to use it on my presentation and come across a problem that I don't know how to solve.

How can I attach a program window into the SM que (eg. I would like to show some fullscreen document editing in Word or Eclipse during my presentation and would not like to use alt+tab to do it)?

Best regards,
Blazej
 8/26/2008 9:11:36 AM
owaits
116 posts
5th


Re: How to add Windows Application Window to SM?
This would require a plugin that supported either Word or Eclipse but at this time none exist. It would certainly be a useful plugin. I am afraid though for the moment the software is not going to be able to do what you want.
 8/29/2008 6:20:04 AM
mupi
5 posts


Re: How to add Windows Application Window to SM?
I can think of two possible workarounds that may work.

First, you could potentially use VNC.  However, this would require a second computer, or virtualazation.

You could also use the web browser plugin and and HTML/java editor. This might work for eclipse to begin with;  You may need to run a web server.  I have had some success running Shockwave (not directly  supported by screenmonkey) by doing this; I just created a web page that embeds the media type (in your case, that invokes the java or html based editor), and point the web browser plugin to that page. 

I found a great web server for XP, that will work on XP home, and may run on vista as well, much smaller and faster for this use  than Apache, and easier to configure as well, but I won't plug it here without permission :)

HTH

 8/29/2008 9:29:01 AM
owaits
116 posts
5th


Re: How to add Windows Application Window to SM?
I found a great web server for XP, that will work on XP home, and may run on vista as well, much smaller and faster for this use  than Apache, and easier to configure as well, but I won't plug it here without permission :)

Go ahead, I am intrigued.
 8/29/2008 4:34:21 PM
mupi
5 posts


Re: How to add Windows Application Window to SM?
OK...

It the Aprelium Abyss web server.  They have a premium version for around $60, and a free version. The free version basically doesn't have virtual hosts support, but for the use we are talking about, you don't really need it.

http://www.aprelium.com/abyssws/

I installed it at our church, as I mentioned, so I can run shockwave plugins and youtube/Godtube videos via screenmonkey, rather than having to mess with a web browser window on the second monitor (youtube mostly uses flash encoding which would be supported if you could download the flash file, but since you generally can't, I use the "embed" option to get a reference to the video, then wrote an HTML template page that I can drop the object tag supplied by youtube into.

Point the web browser plugin to 127.0.0.1/myfile.html and away we go.  Even better, with the cue window, I can see the play button on my local monitor, so I don't even have to hit play on the other monitor, and the congregation doesn't have to see the mouse cusor floating around hitting "full screen" and "play"


Shockwave in particular doesn't always like to go full screen, but you can at least put everything into an HTML table and center it horizontally and vertically.  At that point, if you had a background layer running something else (in SM), the shockwave would appear as a window on top of that.  It did take me some playing around to get the settings just right, and I wound up with shockwave actually having to use an iframe, which I hate, becuase the particular shockwave file I was trying to use insisted on appearing at 0,0, so I had to give it a new 0,0 where *I* wanted it :)

Bottom line, something similar should work for nearly anything you can open in a browser window, such as embedded java applets, though some basic HTML may be required, and some forms may take some tweaking to get them to play nice, or line up where you want them.

mike
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